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Re: Energy Plaza, Hong Kong

Floor 2 is a only level which is a Chinese restaurant. All the other floors are offices. I suggest you visit there in weekday. The building just opposite side of the Hong Kong Science Museum.--Test Tower (Call button for go ↑) 15:20, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

Elevator Database Wiki

Is Elevator Database Wiki currently abandoned? (you said you were no longer maintaining the wiki, and maalit72 hasn't been active on Elevatorpedia, Elevator Community Wiki, or Elevator Database Wiki lately)?

Elevator Database Wiki adminship request

Can I become an admin on Elevator Database Wiki? I want to take over the wiki because it is abandoned. I want to try to revive the wiki.

Upanddownadventures (talk) 20:52, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Questions about buildings to film in Hong Kong

No turnstile implemented in this building and their main lobby is on level 2.--Test Tower (Call button for go ↑) 15:00, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

It has turnstile but only work on public holidays. On the weekdays, the lobby is open to general public but caution on filming as I doesn't film in this building even the Fujitec in the main shopping mall.--Test Tower (Call button for go ↑) 15:06, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Caution: do not film lifts in the law court buildings, that's illegal.--Test Tower (Call button for go ↑) 16:23, May 8, 2016 (UTC)

For both elevator models which using steel belt...

I wish you to help me find the lawsuit between Otis and Schindler.--Test Tower (Call button for go ↑) 15:47, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

How I run Elevator Database wiki

What do you and Maalit72 want changed, do not want changed, or don't care if it is changed on Elevator Database wiki? I have some ideas for the wiki, but I don't want to implement them unless you agree with them. I do want to keep the wiki as an elevator database.

Upanddownadventures (talk) 00:15, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Wikia Maps on Elevator Database Wiki

I might want to look for an alternative to Wikia Maps (I may find an external site to host the map on). The reason for this is that Wikia maps is depreciated and bugs will no longer be fixed, and the map can be vandalised fairly easily, but there is no undo/rollback function as far as I know. If I can't find an alternative, I might want to consider either closing the map (if I did this, I might ask contributors to the map what they want to happen), or keeping it open but not actively maintaining the map.

Upanddownadventures (talk) 21:12, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

Elevator Database Wiki message test

Did you receive the message I sent you on Elevator Database Wiki with the message JavaScript? I am trying to test it.

Upanddownadventures (talk) 05:44, May 6, 2016 (UTC)

Elevator Database wiki security section

I have removed the security section from the building template on Elevator Database Wiki because I don't want to post information that building owners don't want posted about security (especially security flaws).

Upanddownadventures (talk) 22:12, July 8, 2016 (UTC)

ThyssenKrupp ISIS elevator catalog

Do you own the ThyssenKrupp ISIS elevator catalog? If not, did another elevator enthusiast scan it (if so, what elevator enthusiast)? Or did you find it online on a website?

Upanddownadventures (talk) 01:13, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

Re: About your main account

I'm glad to see your main account is now working. -- DoCheonGong 09:57, September 27, 2016 (UTC)

About this page on the wiki: http://elevation.wikia.com/wiki/Salient_Fixtures_Guide

There is a consistent flaw with it; that it says the Round and Square buttons only light up in red when they can light up in green and white.

Should this be changed?



TheDragonFire (talk) 09:58, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

About that you gave me permission... The page is locked. Could you remedy that?

Regards, TheDragonFire TheDragonFire (talk) 08:18, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Userboxes permission

About the userboxes,

Can I use the "This user likes Otis elevators", "This user likes Schindler elevators", and "This user is an elevator filmer" boxes on my user page?


TheDragonFire (talk) 10:39, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Errors in Elevator door sill guide

Concerning this page: http://elevation.wikia.com/wiki/Elevator_door_sill_guide#EPL

Two errors:

1. EPL Kone was not around in 1930,

2. The second picture was from the EPL Kone elevator in Myer Westfield Chermside, and that was installed in 1977 (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_Chermside)

  • Note: The original Myer building was not demolished.

Use of off-topic media on my profile

In case you do not know, like other people on this wiki, including you, I use off-topic media ​for my profile page.

Is this OK? I notice some of your screenshots are broken.


TheDragonFire (talk) 01:09, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Missing content

On this page: http://elevation.wikia.com/wiki/Elevator_fixtures

Scroll down to the bottom and there is still content that needs to be added.

If you can do something about this, that would help the wiki.


TheDragonFire (talk) 20:28, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Unknown generic brand

I know a generic brand in Queensland: Queensland Elevators.

This is missing from the "Third-party elevator maintainence companies" which, despite the name, lists all the generic brands in the world.

​Salient Images

Am I OK to add "Queensland Elevators" to the list?

Regards, TheDragonFire (talk) 11:08, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Can I use these images on the Salient Fixtures Guide?

Regards, TheDragonFire (talk) 05:47, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

New Page idea

Thought I might leave a suggestion about a new page on this wiki.

Should EPL Kone notable installations get a page.

Regards, TheDragonFire (talk) 06:16, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

Fujitec Floor Indicator

FujiTec floor indicator as2.png

Do you have any idea what gen is this Fujitec floor indicator? It also displays what floors are served by the car too. Looks to be 90s, but I'm not sure about that.

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Hi there, I work for Culture Trip and would like to include your image of the elevator in China that doesn't have a fourth floor as part of a Facebook video on our page (facebook.com/theculturetrip). Would you be happy to give us permission to do this? Thanks!Mark

Where did you find the American Linea 100 car station with Linea Vetro LCD floor indicator? Where that one was located?

Georgy2508 (talk) 09:24, February 1, 2017 (UTC)

Re: American Linea 100

Now I knew it. On Kit Fok's page.

Georgy2508 (talk) 14:12, February 1, 2017 (UTC)

New page idea

Should a notable installation page for EPL elevators be added?


TheDragonFire (talk) 22:28, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Johns & Waygood/Johns Perry

How long is the Johns & Waygood/Johns Perry Lifts notable installations section? Should it get a new page?

TheDragonFire (talk) 10:55, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Kone may have not invented the MRL?

YouTube user Joe Rogers posted this comment on a video:

For those who haven't heard yet: I bet you didn't KONE didn't invent the EcoDisc, they stole it from this company (XIZI) who made theirs two years earlier. KONE was never sued because the two companies agreed on a settlement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seHmSEMe2y4

Do you know if this is true or not?

Upanddownadventures (talk) 21:25, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

How many photos can I upload in a day?

I'm asking. Is it really limit 1 photos per day per user? That day I want to change the photo 2 times (1 is I upload it earlier and another one is I need to change it or add 1 more photo after few hours) at the same day on Elevator Community Wiki. Including I'm adding some of my friends channel logo/avatar at the same day.

Thank you if you reply my questions.

Star Asia Elevator 02:57, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Elevator terms

This page lists many obscure elevator terms: https://www.dir.ca.gov/title8/3009.html

Upanddownadventures (talk) 08:42, May 3, 2017 (UTC)

Re: How many photos can I upload in a day?

OK, thanks!

Star Asia Elevator 23:16, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, I appreciate the reply! Good point, though, about the inactivity of the group. However, if at any time you find that the group needs an extra mod, let me know! Not a big deal in a smaller group like this, but I always try to get admin rights in the groups to which I have membership because I feel I have a pretty firm set of morals and a solid basis of moderating experience, so If I see something wrong, I don't necessarily tell someone else, but just take care of it myself! ;)

On a different note, are there any pages that you personnaly would like to see expanded? Be advised that before I make any edits, add content, or otherwise, I always do the research first to make sure of the accuracy of my content (I don't think this is a place ofr personal opinion, unless it's clearly stated as such). I'd like to do what I can, but not sure where I'm needed most! Lol

Anyways, thanks for the time!

ElevatorFanGeek (talk) 15:56, May 24, 2017 (UTC)

Otis NextStep

As far as I can tell, the NextStep is no longer sold in Kuwait. It appears that the page is still on the website, but all links to it from the website itself (including on the Escalators page) have been removed. It looks like to me they simply removed all links to the page, implying that it is indeed a discontinued model, but they haven't removed the page itself.


As this wiki gets more and more detailed and sometimes very technical information about elevators (such as different types of controllers), I think there should possibly be a disclaimer saying 2 things along these lines.

1. As a building owner, you should not try to repair your own elevator. This is not only for your own safety, but for the safety of anyone using the elevator. Improper repairs can leave an elevator operating in a dangerous condition. (I also don't think this is legal) (this disclaimer would be here as elevator technicians are sometimes careful about who they give information to for this reason).

2. Information from this wiki is not guaranteed to be accurate. (It is not advised that information on this wiki should be used by elevator technicians to repair elevators as some information may not be correct). (When I write articles on this wiki, I try to keep information fairly accurate, but I certainly can't guarantee it is accurate).

Upanddownadventures (talk) 05:38, June 7, 2017 (UTC)

Custom fixture gallery

Do you think custom elevator fixtures (as in, made specially for a particular building, or a particular property owner) should be featured on this wiki? If so, should they be added to the respective elevator company's fixture guide? Or should they be in a separate "Custom fixture gallery"? And what about fixtures that I am not sure if they are custom or not?

Upanddownadventures (talk) 23:03, June 19, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Glass/Scenic/Panoramic/Observation elevators around the world.

In this other wiki should I post the page itself or every elevator separately?

I can't seem to delete the page maybe since you're admin you can do it.

Batatavator (talk) 08:02, July 4, 2017 (UTC)Batatavator

Elevator sounds

One thing that is largely undocumented on this wiki are elevator sounds, or in particular, things like arrival chimes, floor passing chimes, nudge mode buzzers, or voices. I may add more information about elevator sounds.

Should information on, and possibly sound clips of sounds be added to the fixtures guides (chimes in some cases are specific to certain types of fixtures)? Or should they be added to their own guide?

Upanddownadventures (talk) 08:59, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Sound files

There are no sound file uploading (or embedded sound player from a website) capabilities on this wiki, right? If so, do you know if it is possible to add that to the wiki, or is that something that is not supported by Wikia? For now, I will link to YouTube videos.

Hello, I am working on making a much better elevator key chart. Right now your key chart has lots of false information and is generally incorrect. Your key chart is currently the most popular and is drawing attention away from mine which actually has a lot more keys and true information. Would you mind deleting the elevator keys page?

Elevatorclay (talk) 03:57, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Could we have a user advertising their company here?

This user: User:Virginia_Controls has created a page called (you guessed it) Virginia Controls. It seems to only be advertising. Should it be looked into?

Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 20:37, August 7, 2017 (UTC)

Could you please delete User;TheDragonFire/text-dump/1?

So, I was trying to create a user subpage, when I accidentally created this page: User;TheDragonFire/text-dump/1.

Could you please delete it?

Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 08:32, August 9, 2017 (UTC)

So what is going on with Elevatorclay and their recreation of the Elevator keys article?

So, two months ago, Elevatorclay asked for the Elevator keys article to be deleted. This was on July 29, 2017. It's now September 1, 2017. Why has there been no activity from them on the work of a new chart? On a side note, could I have the original source code? If you could, copy-paste it into User:TheDragonFire/text-dump/Elevator keys. Thanks! Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 09:00, September 1, 2017 (UTC)

SJEC - IECO escalators

Do you know anything about SJEC - IECO escalators? Video: [1]

I have a guess:

IECO may stand for International Elevator Co.

SJEC might be the Chinese elevator/escalator manufacturer.

Maybe International Elevator is selling/distributing SJEC escalators in the United States, or even manufacturing SJEC designs?

There is an elevator company in India called Johnson that as far as I know manufactures escalators based on SJEC designs in their factory. I think the nameplates say SJEC Johnson. So it seems very possible that another company could be selling SJEC escalators. I think I also saw SJEC-Louser mentioned on the wiki.

Upanddownadventures (talk) 02:30, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

Reference error on Otis fixtures guide worldwide page

There is a cite error on the Otis fixtures guide worldwide page. It mentions "no text was provided for refs named otis3200hk". It appears this error originated from one of your edits in 2016. I didn't fix it as I don't know what should be added as the reference text.

Upanddownadventures (talk) 09:29, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

Do you think we should have an offtopic template?

I ask this because in the image policies say you cannot insert off-topic media except for personal use (e.g, blog post). So should we have a template to mark such images as off-topic and that if they're not used in a blog post or user page, that they qualify for (speedy) deletion?

For example, here's a template I created (and is placed in all off-topic images I've uploaded, for example: File:Meme01.png :

This image or video is off-topic media.

If this image or video is not used in a blog post or user page, this file qualifies for deletion.

Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 10:13, October 8, 2017 (UTC)

Created under Template:Off-topic. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions)

Information Correction

Hi this is Sung of Hyundai elevator public relationi team. I wouild like to modify the introduction of my company.

Hyundai Elevator is the largest elevator and escalator  manufacturer in South Korea regarding its sales, profit, market share. Since 2007, we maintain the No1 position in Korea. Not the second-largest company as you can see on website (http://elevation.wikia.com/wiki/Hyundai_Elevator

So I wouild like to make this correctly and please let me know how to make it. Thanks! 

Sungboklee (talk) 08:20, November 9, 2017 (UTC)

Ummm... IDLift1874?

Someone going by the name of "IDLift1874" (combining elements from your modern username and your previous one, SchindlerLift1874), has created a page simply called "Numbermatics" consisting only of the word "Numbermatics".

Is this user account yours? Or is it a fake imposter?

Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 11:52, December 6, 2017 (UTC)

Elevator Floor Buttons and Door Link

Hello, I didn't know how to search for this or where else to ask, so I'm asking you (as one of the admins of this community). I also didn't find this topic mentioned anywhere in this wiki.

What component of an elevator is responsible for making the floor buttons inside the car register a press only if the door is fully closed? I'm asking because I've got an elevator that works that way, and was wondering what it would take to modify the elevator and make the buttons able to register a press even if the door was open, and initiate the lift mechanism once the door closed.

I'd appreciate if you could explain this concept or show me where I can read more about it.

Tofitasynapse (talk) 14:43, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

That appears to be a controller thing. Maybe the controller doesn't want to register calls when the doors are open, and once the interlock is engaged, the controller would then register it. It's not mechanical. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 12:04, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

Elevator controller photo source

Do you know where you found this photo of this elevator controller, and the photo of the Mitsubishi PLC?

http://elevation.wikia.com/wiki/File:Modern_elevator_controller_cabinet.jpg http://elevation.wikia.com/wiki/File:Elevator_PLC_device.jpg

Upanddownadventures (talk) 23:39, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Dynatech (talk) 10:37, June 1, 2018 (UTC)

Dear Admin (or IDLift3000),

I´m contacting you regarding a new page of a Spanish company called “Dynatech – lift safety components” that we would like to add at Elevatorpedia. It’s a manufacturer of lift safety components with more than 20 years and we are preparing an article with their story, milestones in their contribution to the elevator safety components industry and some tips in the evolution of the european elevator legislation. We believe that can help a little bit to understand better the elevator component industry in europe without commercial or advertising tone. But I read that one of the rules is "Do not edit any category pages without permission from the admin" That means that I cannot edit the "List of generic elevator component companies" and "Generic elevator component companies" pages without a permission? Or I can add the name of the company and it´s article link without any problem...

By the way, in case you think something should be changed or you have any tips that I should take into consideration don´t hesitate to let me know. Thanks in advance!! :)

(Talk page stalker): I'd say draft it User:TheDragonFire/sandbox/Dynatech here in my user sandbox first. Then I can publish it with some modifications if need be. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 11:40, June 1, 2018 (UTC)

Videos page not updating

I added this video to the wiki yesterday, but it doesn't show up on the videos page: https://elevation.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dover_Computamatic_elevator_at_Hall_Hotel_with_Machine_Room_tour_Mayfield_KY-0

I had errors uploading it yesterday, but it seems to have uploaded despite the errors.

Upanddownadventures (talk) 03:15, June 18, 2018 (UTC)

Videos page pt. 2

The videos page still doesn't seem to have updated. Can you tell me if the video linked above shows up on the videos page on your computer/phone, so I can rule out it being a problem with my computer/browser? I did try 2 different browsers.

May I have these files deleted?

I am asking you if you have time to delete these two files (first, second) for me or not. If you have time, please delete them. These files are now no longer being used, and I think that keeping them may cause the message's owner in the picture to complain or sue me.

Thanks in advance.

File:Image444 2.jpg MelvinMan10 (Talk to me!)

13:24, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

A debate on administrators' power (and some other policies)

From my experience, both on Wikipedia and You're Skitting Me Wiki, I feel that administrators' have too much power and are too selective with recruiting more. I'm not sure if this is the right venue, but I would like some opinion on some possible policy changes and some other concerns

  • Administrators here are quick to block, without warnings, and rarely do so without revoking talk page access, which gives victims no chance to appeal their blocks.
  • On Wikipedia, there is a request for adminship process which allows users to become administrators after passing community review. On Elevatorpedia, there is no such process, and in fact, users who ask can get warned (!) and possibly therefore blocked.
  • On the Main Page, there are featured articles and a DYK section; however, both of these are seriously neglected. We can handle it like Wikipedia; allow the community to decide on changes, with admins pushing these to the Main Page.

There are some other policies that need addressing too, but the above are the most problematic in my eyes. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 09:49, August 22, 2018 (UTC)

We could run mini-RFAs on an admin's talk page and place it into a category (something like Currently active requests for adminship). Then, users can support or oppose it.

By the way, how can we do the same for EDW since it uses the stupid Message Wall system? Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 09:51, August 23, 2018 (UTC)

May I have the following items deleted or replaced?

I am asking you if you have time to delete the following items (on both this wiki and ECW) for me or not. If you can, please delete them, as I don't want people to know about my elevator filming or my information now.

  1. My main channel's previous and current avatars (first, second, third, fourth).
  2. My secondary channel's former avartar (this file).
  3. My templates, formerly used for elevator animation requests (first, second, third).

Additionally, may I have this picture removed (or replaced with a different one if possible)? I think this picture may affect my privacy because it contains a place's name that I don't want publicized. I didn't care about that initially, since I though I may not be at that place for a long time.

Thanks in advance.

Hi Idlift3000: I found this indicator on a set of mitsubishi lifts @focus mall, tainan city, taiwan:

Which looks really simaller to the one below

Custom Mitsubishi HL-MenImp.jpg

Quite interesting isn't it?

--Elevator catcher (talk) 11:45, September 6, 2018 (UTC)elevator catcher

Adding more photos to the Elevadores Atlas Article

Hello IDLift3000! I'm user Livio Naves, the Brazilian guy you see on Instagram and YouTube. I am planning on uploading some photos I have of some Atlas Elevators and escalators. I will upload them as soon as I can and I wish ypu could edit them into the Atlas (Brazil) Article. I am having some problems on uploading the photos though, as it says "Could not be successfully be uploaded due to insufficient memory".

With all the respect, LNGTA (talk) 01:42, September 9, 2018 (UTC)LNGTALNGTA (talk) 01:42, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Image crediting and images not showing up

Hello, IDLift3000! Two things:

1. Copyright and credits - Thank you for notifiying me about this. Most of the images I upload are mine and/or  stand in my gallery. Giving credits is something I cannot generally do, as I didn't thought I was ever going to use them somewhere (the idea to upload them only came from more than a week ago) and so they don't have credits on them. I will put credits on the photos I can and if you can, put the credits on the photos I can't credit, as I generally can't do this. But thanks for the advice, even though my elevator photos are made public, I know some people like credits on their photos.  PS: I am a mobile user and I rarely use desktop, so throwing the images on Google search is hard for me.

2. Photos don't appear when editing - As you know, I just upload a ton of photos and I'm currently editing the information on Atlas, along with you. But when I try editing the articles, the photos simply don't show up. Only a handful of them, and they aren't the ones that I need. If you can tell me something about it or solve this problem, I would be grateful. (Or maybe put them in the articles by yourself, as they seem to be showing for you)

Thanks for the advice and all the help.

Lívio M Naves (talk) 13:02, September 18, 2018 (UTC)LNGTALívio M Naves (talk) 13:02, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

RfA and extension for the debate on admins' power

As dicussed before, the only reason why anyone would be blocked for asking is because they have had a history of using the power inappropiately. I would therefore, like to nominate myself for adminship on both this wiki and the Elevator Database Wiki, with reasons being listed on the RfA page. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 22:30, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

Elev Brochure Archive

I found a link to this website:


Is this your website? If not, do you know who created it?

Upanddownadventures (talk) 04:12, November 19, 2018 (UTC)

(Talk page stalker) It does not appear to be IDL3K's page to me. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 05:26, November 19, 2018 (UTC)
Actually it's my site which I created for storing elevator brochures which are no longer available on the internet. IDL3K #ElevatorEnthusiast
- EW Admin ⬁ [Contact me ⬅]

New username policy for EDW and or EW

If you can spare some time, please come up with a draft username policy both here and on EDW. Thanks. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 09:55, November 22, 2018 (UTC)

Tag Elevator Wiki:AnimatedLift Request Page as historical?

This page appears to be long inactive, so should it be tagged with {{Historical}}?

Hey, I'm Jamestube 8439 on YouTube and I wanted to say that this is a very cool site for getting help and understanding elevators, I'm a new elevator enthuiast and I've learned so much in just 1 year, this summer will be my 2nd year as an elevator enthusiast!  Keep up the great work, and I also added to some of the elevator keys like the H1846 key that also does run/stop.  Keep up the great work and thanks for making a cool wikipedia!

James718194 (talk) 16:25, January 3, 2019 (UTC)Jamestube 8439

Re: Tonic vs Dewhurst

They're actually different screw mounting hole locations, Tonic is actually narrower than Dewhurst. However, the size of the monitors are yet to be confirmed.--Test Tower (Call button for go ↑) 10:55, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

New block template

Our current warning templates are vague, threating and bite-y of newcomers, who may have made mere mistakes. I propose we reword Template:Blocked.

New code

{| style="width: 80%; margin: 15px 15px 15px 10%; border-collapse: collapse; background: #eaeee4; border: 1px solid #aaa; border-left: 10px solid #FD0E35; color:black;"
| style="width: 52px; padding: 2px 0px 2px 0.5em; text-align: center;" | [[File:Schindler Out of Service.jpg|100px|Elevator has been temporarily out of service.]]
| style="padding: 0.25em 0.5em;" | '''"Elevator has been temporarily immobilized"''' <br/> You have been blocked {{#if:{{{indef|}}}|indefinitely|temporarily}} for {{{1|abuse of editing privileges}}}.<br><small>The Admin reminds you that if you break the rules of Elevatorpedia, there will be several consequences.</small><br>
If you disagree with this block, or think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please place <code>{{unblock|1=your reason for unblock}}</code> on your talk page.

and renders like this:

Elevator has been temporarily out of service. "Elevator has been temporarily immobilized"
You have been blocked temporarily for abuse of editing privileges.
The Admin reminds you that if you break the rules of Elevatorpedia, there will be several consequences.

If you disagree with this block, or think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please place {{unblock|1=your reason for unblock}} on your talk page.

Note: The indef parameter tells the template whether the block is indefinite or not.

Advantages for new wording

  • Less bitey, tells users what they did
  • Helps users who receive the block know what they did wrong
  • Gives users a chance to appeal wrongful blocks.

Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 04:58, March 24, 2019 (UTC)


I am new to this website and I am having difficulty in using it. I saw a sign that said to write a message here if I needed help—I hope this is okay. Is there any instructional page that shows how to navigate around? I came here because I am very interested in elevator governors and am hoping to find more information on them as well as like-minded people. Thank you for your time.

Elevatorgovernors (talk) 22:40, April 15, 2019 (UTC)

hi idlift3000, will you make schindler 100 page?

Nglaikwan-Fando (talk) 10:14, May 3, 2019 (UTC)i like schindler 300 P, schindler 7000

Nglaikwan-Fando (talk) 10:16, May 3, 2019 (UTC)

i seen schindler 100 in schindler page


i seen schindler 100, will you make schindler 100 page?

did anyone knows schindler 500 & 700 discontinue date?

did anyone knows when schindler 500 & 700 discontinued?


I'm assisting a small older building's managers with various tasks, including becoming more familiar with their elevator.  After looking at the control panel, I'm baffled as to what some of the bits are.

Here's one.

It's a 1990 vintage Northern Elevator hoist-type with a motor generator. 

Baffling part. Is it some kind of D.I.Y. fuse?

Please see the photo I hope I've attached to this. 


Ken Ohrn (talk) 01:54, July 12, 2019 (UTC)

Question on behalf of User talk:The ATM Man

This question was left on the now-deleted Schematics for Warner page. Could you forward it to an interested admin or answer it?

"Does anyone know where to find schematics for old Warner elevators"

Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 22:43, December 13, 2019 (UTC)

Otis Signal Control

Where did you get this information (on the Signal Control page)?

"Originally, this system was developed for low-speed, operatorless and foolproof service elevator in apartments. The first Signal Control elevator system installed in New York City was at the Standard Oil Building in 1925."

I haven't seen any evidence suggesting Signal Control operatorless systems existed, though I can't say for sure it isn't true either. The Signal Control elevator I filmed was a signal operation elevator (which DOES require an operator but is likely easier to operate than a regular manual elevator).

Upanddownadventures (talk) 07:48, January 3, 2020 (UTC)

KLEEMANN Page changes

Dear Administrator,

My name is Evangelia Tsitaki and I work at the Marketing Department of KLEEMANN Hellas.

We noticed that some of the information given in the page of company are not updated or correct.

I would kindly ask you to help me in order for me to proceed to the necessary modifications.

Please let me know how I can change this information.

Thank you in advance

Evangelia TsitakiTsitaki (talk) 20:44, March 31, 2020 (UTC)

Be careful not to break any of Elevatorpedia's anti-advertising rules while doing so. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 07:56, June 5, 2020 (UTC)

Westinghouse pop-out buttons

Is StepModul228 one of your accounts?

If so, do you remember anything about this photo (such as where you found it, who took it, or where the elevator is located if the location was listed)?


Upanddownadventures (talk) 06:28, June 5, 2020 (UTC)

User:Dial Boy Green

I want to bring to administrator attention User:Dial Boy Green and his contributions.

This user has added references to Taxi Lifts Ltd and Kone TaxiSpace. The former is apparently a British generic company, the latter a Kone elevator model sold in Europe. Except there are numerous problems with the credibility of these:

  • Taxi Lifts Ltd is mentioned as being owned by Dial Boy Green. Additionally, apparently they were purchased by Kone. That seems a bit incredible, that this particular generic was bought by Kone, of all companies, and was operated by just one person.
  • Kone TaxiSpace apparently uses the "TaxiDisc" hoisting motor. But why? Why would this particular lift model need its own lift motor for something that is already done easily without an especial motor (paid elevators)?
  • Kone TaxiSpace is not listed on kone.co.uk.
  • Why would anyone make a lift based off a taxicab, anyway? What is the purpose? Especially when there are already paid elevators for this purpose?

I've told him to stop on his talk page. Yet he added it again this morning. What should I do now? His other contributions seem constructive, so I'm reluctant to block this soon, but he will at least need to be sanctioned if this disruptive behaviour continues.

Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 23:22, June 14, 2020 (UTC)

Make a Elevator fan discord server for this wiki Thewriter80 (talk) 15:08, July 4, 2020 (UTC)

You know, walking in and asking this abruptly and rudely of him to do something that he probably isn't familiar with isn't netting you any favours here. Sorry. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 19:43, July 4, 2020 (UTC)
Since I have a job now which gives me little to no time for running and taking care of this wiki, take that as a no. Sorry, but taking my time for doing something very important for me and my future is more important than setting up and running something that I think it isn't worth enough for this wiki.

IDL3K #ElevatorEnthusiast
- EW Admin ⬁ [Contact me ⬅]

If there's enough demand for a Discord server, I probably will create and help run it. But we'll wait and see. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 07:09, July 5, 2020 (UTC)

Dial Boy Green vandalising ECW

Just a heads up that Dial Boy Green is once again vandalising the ECW page for Beno by adding his own bespoke nickname to it despite being used only by him. Since I don't have the admin bit over there, I cannot roll him back or block him, so some eyes will need to be kept on him over there. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 20:40, July 11, 2020 (UTC)

Hello! I have a similar project - liftopedia. I have been leading it since 2013. I think it will be interesting for you to take a look at it))

Stalex7 (talk) 19:24, July 12, 2020 (UTC) Alex Stepanov

Just as an update to the last post, now that he's back to vandalising the Beno page and in the wake of little admin presence at ECW, can we have an indef on Dial Boy Green down there until you get back? Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 19:27, July 15, 2020 (UTC)

New wiki editor test

This message was written to test the new wiki editor as part of the wiki migration to the Unified Community Platform (UCP), with the (crap) VisualEditor switched to the classic source editor mode as my default preferred editor.

Remember, this is just a test. You can ignore this message.

Test again, this time with the 2010 wiki toolbar enabled.

IDL3K #ElevatorEnthusiast
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Permission to run RFC on Kone vs KONE and Otis vs OTIS?

On this wiki, there is lots of disagreement on whether to use the stylised spelling ("KONE" and "OTIS") or legal spelling ("Kone" and "Otis"). Should I run a requests for comments on this? Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 06:33, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

TK South Korea Screen grabber

Hello, On Korean TK Fixtures page. Do I really need to screenshot the Touch and Push Buttons (TK77 and TK22) from the ThyssenKrupp South Korea PDF Or from YouTube within permission from a user.

If you need any questions and concerns. Please Let me know on my talk page DFW FAA Brianvators (talk) 14:24, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

JamarWiki copyright infringement?

It seems that many of JamarWiki's uploads are stolen from other sites/users without any sign of credit. I've already been able to delete one that was stolen from Floridian Elevators without any sign of the channel in the description.

Should we delete most of their uploads as a precaution? Seems that they're very overly casual and don't write in a register suitable for this wiki. Regards, TheDragonFire. (Contact me | Contributions) 00:30, 6 July 2021 (UTC)